[TPP Draft] Revocation of Remaining TPP-18 Capped Minters

Update on the Delegate & Proposal Review Call

I would like to thank everyone who joined the Proposal Review Call and everyone who has taken the time to read, comment on, and discuss this proposal.

This was the first opportunity to present the proposal directly to some delegates and answer questions in a live discussion.

For those who were unable to attend, I would like to summarize the discussion from my perspective.

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Presentation of the proposal

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I began by clarifying what this proposal is not.

It is not an attempt to stop development an attempt to reverse previous distributions.

It is not an attempt to stop development of ZKsync.

It is not an attack on Matter Labs.

Instead, I explained that this is fundamentally a governance proposal asking a simple question:

Should the remaining automatic monthly allocations approved under TPP-18 continue under the same assumptions that existed when governance originally approved them?

I also emphasized that TPP-18 explicitly preserved the Token Assembly’s authority to revoke future monthly capped minters. The proposal simply asks governance whether the circumstances have changed sufficiently to justify exercising that authority.

I summarized the four main arguments presented in the forum proposal:

  • The roadmap and assumptions have evolved;
  • the expected pathway between institutional adoption and governance-controlled value accrual has become less certain;
  • recurring dilution should not continue unless it remains justified under current circumstances; and
  • if additional funding is needed, governance can always evaluate a new proposal based on the current roadmap with updated milestones, reporting and justification.

Discussion following the presentation

Following the presentation, Shelby asked what I believed had materially changed since TPP-18 was approved.

I explained that my position is based on three developments:

  • The roadmap has evolved;
  • previously anticipated fee mechanisms remain deferred; and
  • the relationship between institutional adoption and governance-controlled value accrual is now less certain than when TPP-18 was approved.

I also explained that this proposal does not attempt to judge whether engineering decisions were technically correct. The governance question is simply whether those changes justify reconsidering the remaining automatic allocations.

Matter Labs’ response

Steven from Matter Labs responded by arguing that nothing material had changed and that TPP-18 continues to pursue its original objective of executing the 2026 Prividium roadmap and expanding the institutional network.

During the discussion, however, he also repeatedly explained that engineering priorities had changed in response to partner feedback and institutional demand.

He stated that Matter Labs had reprioritized work toward private interoperability because this is what partners currently require.

One interesting moment during the discussion was that Steven initially referred to public interoperability as having been “deprioritized” before immediately correcting himself to “reprioritized.” While this was likely an unintentional slip of the tongue, it nevertheless reflected the central point under discussion**: that engineering priorities have changed since TPP-18 was approved.**

The disagreement was therefore not whether priorities had evolved, but whether those changes are significant enough for governance to reconsider the remaining automatic funding.

Public interoperability

A significant part of the discussion focused on public interoperability.

It was acknowledged during the call that both private interoperability and public interoperability are included within Stream 1 of TPP-18.

My position was that the originally planned public interoperability/fee mechanism work was removed from V31 after the roadmap changed in response to partner feedback.

I pointed out that public interoperability/fee mechanism had originally been expected as part of the V31 roadmap and was promised to be delivered by the end of June. That implementation did not occur, and during the discussion no new delivery timeline or commitment was provided. So Technically it has been Cancelled not reprioritized like Steven tried to frame it.

Matter Labs’ position was that public interoperability has not been cancelled, but rather postponed and reprioritized while engineering resources focus on private interoperability.

Whether one describes that as a postponement or a reprioritization, I believe it remains relevant to the governance question because it demonstrates that the roadmap has evolved since TPP-18 was approved.

Returning the discussion to governance

As the discussion became increasingly technical, I made an effort to redirect the conversation back to the actual governance question.

I stated:

“Those technical details may be relevant to a future funding proposal, but the question here is narrower: should the existing automatic allocation continue unchanged, or should governance reassess it?”

I believe this distinction is important.

This proposal is not asking delegates to evaluate engineering architecture or implementation decisions.

It asks whether the assumptions that originally justified twelve months of automatic treasury allocations remain sufficiently unchanged to justify continuing those allocations without renewed governance approval.

Timing

Another point raised by Matter Labs was that TPP-18 has only been active for approximately one month.

While I understand that perspective, I do not believe the passage of time alone determines whether governance should exercise the authority that TPP-18 explicitly reserved.

The revocation mechanism exists precisely so governance can respond if circumstances evolve during the funding period.

The question is therefore not simply how much time has passed, but whether governance believes the underlying assumptions supporting future monthly allocations remain valid today.

Unfortunately, during the final part of the discussion my internet connection became unstable. I was joining the call while away from home and experienced repeated connection issues, which prevented me from responding in greater detail to some of the final points that were raised. Despite those technical difficulties, I appreciated the opportunity to present the proposal and discuss its central governance question with delegates and Matter Labs representatives.

My conclusion after the discussion

Overall, I believe the call was a valuable step in bringing this proposal before a wider audience of delegates and community members.

The discussion also highlighted what I believe is the central disagreement.

Throughout the discussion, Matter Labs argued that nothing had changed in a way that would justify revoking the remaining allocations. At the same time, they explained that engineering priorities had been rescoped and reprioritized in response to partner feedback, with public interoperability being postponed (to unknown date without any promises if delivery) while private interoperability became the immediate focus based on their business partners’ wish.

In my view, those two positions raise the very governance question this proposal is intended to address. My argument has never been that development stopped or that the broader institutional vision disappeared. Rather, it is that governance should consider whether changes to the roadmap, implementation priorities, delivery timeline and expected value-accrual pathway are sufficiently significant to justify reassessing automatic monthly treasury allocations.

For me, the value of this call was therefore not in convincing Matter Labs of that position. Their perspective is already well known. The value was giving delegates and the wider community an opportunity to hear the proposal discussed publicly, examine both viewpoints, and evaluate the arguments for themselves.

The core governance issue remains clear:

TPP-18 included an explicit safeguard allowing the Token Assembly to revoke future monthly minters if circumstances changed. Given the evolution of the roadmap, the reprioritization of key deliverables, and the uncertainty around the original value-accrual assumptions, this proposal asks governance to exercise that authority and reassess the remaining automatic allocations.

That is the question this proposal asks the community to consider.

I encourage everyone who believes this discussion is important to become involved. Read the proposal carefully,watch the recording of the call ( minute 00:26) , participate in the forum discussion, engage respectfully with delegates, and help ensure that as many stakeholders as possible evaluate the proposal on its merits.

Governance only works when the community participates. If you believe this proposal deserves serious consideration, your involvement can help ensure that the discussion reaches more delegates and more community members before any future governance decision is made.

Everything you’ve shared so far appears to be genuinely AI-generated! The link you posted doesn’t include any video of you, you haven’t introduced yourself, and no one in the community is familiar with who you are. It’s not just the content, it’s the structure of your communications that follow standard AI generated text. Could you clarify whether you’re an AI bot or a human participant?

Thank you for your response. I’ll genuinely take the AI comparison as a compliment , apparently the structure and clarity are doing a good job.

For the record, you missed the call agenda, if you check the recording again, the “AI bot” starts speaking at around 00:26, right after Shelby’s introduction :slight_smile: .

I also noticed you joined the forum less than an hour ago, so I would encourage you to take some time to review my previous contributions and discussions before drawing conclusions.

I welcome criticism of the proposal and its arguments , that is the purpose of governance discussions. I look forward to discussing the substance rather than the person presenting it , dear “ @humbleoats ”.

Way to not answer any of the questions I shared. Are you an AI? Who are you? Where are your socials? You’re evading the questions.

@humbleoats

It is interesting that your first contribution to this forum is not to discuss the proposal or the governance questions being raised, but instead to focus entirely on attacking the person who submitted it.

Your membership on the forum is 3 hours old, yet your immediate focus is questioning my identity rather than addressing the substance of the proposal!

I am the author of this proposal and the person who presented it during the Delegate & Proposal Review Call. The recording is public and i shared the link above.

If you have a contribution concerning this proposal draft, please go ahead and share it with us.
Personal speculation does not strengthen your position. Arguments do.

If you continue with personal attacks instead of engaging with the proposal, I will simply stop responding. There is no value in wasting the community’s time on discussions that avoid the actual governance issues.

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The elephant in the room is:
”Why would a partner be against enabling a mechanism that accrues value to the official token of the network?”

The answer is simple.

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Just a quick summary for anyone who doesn’t have time to read the whole thread.

The goal of this proposal is straightforward: to revoke the remaining TPP-18 capped minters that have not yet been activated, while leaving previous distributions untouched and preserving Matter Labs’ ability to request future funding through a new governance proposal with updated milestones and justification.

Over the last few days we’ve spoken with holders and delegates, and it’s encouraging to see more people taking the proposal seriously. Now we need to turn that interest into participation.

If you support the proposal, please share it, send it to delegates, and encourage others to read it and get involved. If you’d like to help with outreach or coordination, send me a DM or email at revoketpp18@atomicmail.io

The more people who are aware of the proposal before any governance vote, the better.

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Listen, what’s going on is not weird at all.

It’s weird for crypto people that are completely uneducated about how regulations work.

Crypto tokens are not meant to have utility or value accrual, they are allowed to be traded, generated through TGEs, and sold through ICOs only under the premise that the token has no value, and won’t have any future value based on something performed by the entity that generated it.

That’s the only way they are allowed, especially US entities, to generate a token and sell it.

So why VCs buy it, we know VCs invested more than $250M in matterlabs ( not in zksync ) ?

The answer is simple.

VCs invest following legal agreements, they are buying shares of matterlabs and of their work.

Even if they are not listed on public markets, VCs know that the moment the company is going to have a product with revenues, they will be abkle to push for an IPO listing on wall street and claim their shares/ dividends.

So why a crypto token ?

VCs in accord with these entities found out that generating a completely unregulated crypto token far before to have a working product / revenues, was a very profitable mean for VCs to recoup at least partially their investment with a large advance ( thanks to the listing at very high FDV and low float ) and for the teams to start selling their allocs to fund their work.

In all this game the exit liquidity is always the retail buyer.

The retail buys a dream, and a fake promise, that if that team/company will have success, his tokens will be worth something one day, but that’s a complete lie.

Those crypto tokens are engineered to have 0 value eventually, that’s the only way these companies can keep operating without being sued, because in the event that a crypto token value is bound to the performance of the company that generated it, that becomes a security, and the company becomes suable of having sold an unregistered security.

The US law is very clear.

There are only a bunch of coins like $ETH that even if sold through an ICO, their own nature and widespread decentralized mechanism, makes it possible to be claimed as a commodity.

But that would never happen for these governance tokens that are highly centralized.

I think that Gluk just played the same scheme played by a lot of people before him.

I still can’t be 100% sure that they won’t find a way to eventually accrue some sort of value to the token, but it’s 100% sure that if they focus on gathering banks as clients, banks want the $ZK token to be worth 0 because that’s the only way for matter labs to be 100% clean.

VCs don’t care if the token goes to 0, they care that Prividium works, and that banks begin using it and eventually paying for matter labs tech.

They hold shares of matter labs, don’t forget it.

So it’s very possible that in this particular phase, it’s VCs themselves that are asking to send the token to 0 as fast as possible so to not slow down the adoption of Prividium.

If someone thinks I said a bunch of bs here, happy to hear back the reasons.

Cheers.

@kaiser.eth All of this are obvious things, but only when token already worth almost zero :sweat_smile: I think it’s too late to do researches and analysis, cause many here already in “drawing dead” posision, holding -70-90% losses. Technically almost all holders already zeroed. To be honest, not all the tokens are worthless. HYPE, PUMP, UNI already have some value accrue. So this option exists. But the only way to create value for ZK token is routing some fees that will be earned through private interoperability to ZK token. Its possible, but would never happen I think. Alex today retweeted about why buybacks are useless. So probably this is a hint that ZK token never gets a value. Sad, but it is what is.

Wrong, Hyperliquid or Uniswap never sold tokens through an ICO, they dropped them through a genesis airdrop.

Pumpfun did an ICO and in fact it’s facing multiple lawsuits, but Alon doesn’t care cause he extracted enough to pay for legal defense, and he has no real product to defend, like matterlabs on the contrary.

There’s no way out, when you took $250M from VCs, and you gave them tokens in exchange, you can’t by any mean do something that accrues value to the token without facing massive regulatory issues.

It’s true that now it’s a bit too late, but most of us maybe were fooled by the official statements and proposals that the mechanisms for that value accrual were being worked on.

If that was complete gaslighting or not, only matterlabs heads know.

It will not help at all, there is still 170m unlock of ZK tokens every month. Probably team want to walk away from token as fast as possible. Maybe cause it’s dangerous for them if they want pushing prividiums, dont know. No info, no communication, team are completely ingoring all the quesions, all the podcasts. Seems like situation went out of control and they don’t want to do smth with token in future. @Golem Can we receive at least some info about ZKsync plans. Month of silence when all around the token keep get more and more worse. ZKnomist wanted to do podcast with Alex month ago, but even this aren’t happened.

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@KryptoRitter

That is all they are good for, silencing anyone who does not align with their narrative. That admin actually marked this thread to be hidden and kept off the main pages under , a desperate attempt to stop what is left of the community from reading it.

As for your deleted comment, I personally found it a frank one , but Alex doesn’t like to be called what he actually is!

By the way Alex, how is the lawsuit from BANKEX against you going? Are you convicted yet?

Honestly, I’m shocked that one of you actually deleted and again banned another community memeber , this time @KryptoRitterKryptoRitter simply for speaking up.

Who do you think you are? This is a community forum, not a private PR channel where inconvenient voices can simply be erased. People have every right to question what is happening to their money, their tokens, and the decisions being made around them.

And Alex, if you and your team cannot stand criticism, you need to get used to it. You deliberately made yourselves public figures and put yourselves at the center of decisions that have had serious financial consequences for hundreds, if not thousands, of investors and community members.

With that position comes accountability. You MUST accept criticism, even when it is harsh, uncomfortable, or crosses the boundaries you apparently believe.

You don’t get to define criticism as “acceptable” only when it is flattering or convenient. And you certainly don’t get to silence people simply because they are angry about losing money.

Deleting and banning critics does not make the criticism disappear. It only makes the censorship more obvious and frankly, makes you look even worse.

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